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Post by dalenichol on Dec 1, 2020 17:55:14 GMT
Hi folks Just making everybody aware about this confirmed, known issue for FM21. As things stand, in some saves (possibly all of them) youth intakes are not happening in leagues that are not actively loaded. This means that medium to long term saves will be hampered by a lack of player depth at international level and for those like me playing somewhere like South America, where not all the leagues are included in the game, the missing leagues will not have intakes. There is also speculation that intakes in playable leagues decline over time and what there's issues with random nationalities during intake, but these are anecdotal at best. The guys at SI are working on a fix, but there's no certainty that this fix will be save game compatible. community.sigames.com/topic/539334-youth-intake/?tab=comments#comment-12787395 |
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Post by Marshdweller on Dec 1, 2020 20:15:53 GMT
I never understand these sorts of bugs - like, what did they change from last time to make this happen?
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Post by dalenichol on Dec 1, 2020 21:01:42 GMT
Update:
SI have confirmed that they when they do get this fixed, it WILL be save game compatible, so that's a relief. I just hope that it comes sooner rather than later!
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Post by chaodck on Dec 1, 2020 21:37:02 GMT
That's great news Dale. I just started my first FM 21 save. Thanks for the info, bud.
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Post by Reiver on Dec 2, 2020 7:53:10 GMT
This made me stop my game before the first intake while I wait for the fix.
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Post by Reiver on Dec 2, 2020 14:48:54 GMT
community.sigames.com/topic/541065-football-manager-2113-minor-update-out-now/Minor Udpdate 21.1.3 (includes but not limited to): ---------------------------------------------------------- - Updates to competition and registration rules in nations including Croatia, Israel, Romania, Portugal and South Korea - Specific tweaks and updates to Brexit and work permit rules in-game - Addressing in-game text appearing blurry in certain resolutions - Crash and Stability fixes - Editor fixes including those related to passing basic rules test and adding additional divisions - Improvements to newgen generation in inactive leagues - Reduced examples of lag appearing within development centre - Fixed rare example where player could get stuck at kick-off after half time - Addressed hotseat issue where 'awaiting media reaction' would stay on screen - Touchline tablet no longer showing incorrect team on shot map - Improved functionality of dragging players on squad screen
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Post by dalenichol on Dec 2, 2020 20:52:01 GMT
Yay, it's fixed!
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Post by Reiver on Dec 3, 2020 14:17:31 GMT
Apparently it's not 100% fixed - countries that are non playable and have players added through advanced setups will still experience this - it's flagged and the feedback is that when the fix for these comes it will also be save game compatible.
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Post by dalenichol on Dec 3, 2020 16:52:52 GMT
Apparently it's not 100% fixed - countries that are non playable and have players added through advanced setups will still experience this - it's flagged and the feedback is that when the fix for these comes it will also be save game compatible. Awh pish! |
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Post by Reiver on Dec 3, 2020 19:55:59 GMT
I tested, and a game with one nation loaded and national reputation players in the world on it loses 10000 players in a year
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Post by dalenichol on Dec 4, 2020 7:47:41 GMT
I tested, and a game with one nation loaded and national reputation players in the world on it loses 10000 players in a year That's mad. I 'think' I just went with the standard large database for Manaus, but it does make me think twice about continuing the save until I know that's fixed and there's no other, more serious side effects. |
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Post by Reiver on Dec 4, 2020 10:40:57 GMT
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Post by ttgb on Dec 15, 2020 14:26:49 GMT
Had this been resolved yet?
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Post by Reiver on Dec 15, 2020 14:31:57 GMT
community.sigames.com/topic/539021-youth-intake-broken-just-like-beta/?do=findComment&comment=12831141Quick update on this one: This issue is a priority and we are still working hard to get it fixed ASAP. Changes will be save game compatible when they’re ready and will be rolled out at the earliest opportunity. It has required some fundamental changes to how newgen generation is approached in inactive leagues, and we hope the result will be a better and more consistent spread of youth intakes across the globe than we’ve ever had in previous versions of FM. Youth Intake numbers are a very complex and delicate balancing act, and your patience is still greatly appreciated while we try to get this right.
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Post by dalenichol on Dec 15, 2020 14:48:34 GMT
At least they're getting somewhere, I guess..
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Post by ttgb on Dec 16, 2020 20:56:18 GMT
Thanks. Can't they just go back to the old code.
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Dec 18, 2020 8:51:09 GMT
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Post by dalenichol on Dec 18, 2020 11:24:38 GMT
That they've only said "further improvements" makes me worry a little, but hopefully this is it mostly fixed now! |
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Post by Nick on Dec 22, 2020 15:46:34 GMT
Is this issue now sorted? At least to a playable level?
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Post by dalenichol on Dec 22, 2020 17:53:28 GMT
Is this issue now sorted? At least to a playable level? From what I understand, it's definitely at least at a playable level now, but should really be fixed. I've just not played long enough in to be sure. |
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Post by Reiver on Dec 22, 2020 18:24:41 GMT
The tests I've seen people do in SI board show that it should be fixed indeed.
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Dec 24, 2020 10:57:42 GMT
I have found another pretty annoying bug that makes adding leagues further into the save totally broken. I have tested this in 2 different saves now and it happened in both.
When you add playable leagues to your save, the player count rises more than initially projected. Much worse however, is that all players that are added by this that have 0's for their hidden personality attributes (ambition, professionalism etc.) in the pre-game editor (so they are randomly generated each time you start a game), will have values of 1 for these attributes. These players are totally useless as they won't develop and will start moaning about everything.
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Post by dalenichol on Dec 26, 2020 17:12:10 GMT
Oh damn, Dirk. Get that on the bug report, because that's going to be a killer for any long term, multi continent journyeman saves
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Dec 28, 2020 14:08:29 GMT
Yep I did that! No response yet, but I hope that will come in the new year.
I brought in some players from leagues that I added and noticed they were totally unmanagable, complaining about everything. They trained badly and didn't improve, eventhough my scouts rated their potential highly. I felt that something was off and went to check it in an editor, and fount that 15k out of 83k players in the save had 1's for all hidden attributes...
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Jan 22, 2021 18:01:02 GMT
Yep I did that! No response yet, but I hope that will come in the new year. I brought in some players from leagues that I added and noticed they were totally unmanagable, complaining about everything. They trained badly and didn't improve, eventhough my scouts rated their potential highly. I felt that something was off and went to check it in an editor, and fount that 15k out of 83k players in the save had 1's for all hidden attributes... It took 5 weeks but I got a response from SI that they tested this and encountered the same problem, so hopefully it will be fixed in the next patch. |
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