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Post by chaodck on Jun 21, 2020 22:19:03 GMT
So my Newell's save feels like it's getting slightly stale: I can't muster any enthusiasm for the Argentinian cup, I have to fend off constant transfer requests for my players (resulting in them getting unsettled), and while we've built ourselves up as a domestic powerhouse and are progressing slightly in the Copa Libertadores, we just can't get past the Brazilians. For some reason (well, mainly because the sponsorships values are extremely sticky), I can't be financially sustainable without getting to the CL final or selling off players constantly, which makes it hard to stay attached to the save. I'm looking for something else, but I'm not entirely sure what. I was thinking about having a save in Brazil: their regens look consistently nice compared to the Argentinian ones that are coming through, and the state championships make things a bit of a slog, but they're good for youth development and add something different. Another option would be a game in Italy, where I could take a team like Cagliari and do a cantera save (do I remember Ben doing one of those ages ago)? I was also drawn to the idea of a Southampton save for the youth (though I haven't checked to see if they still have quality regens coming through like they used to). Any suggestions? It doesn't have to be limited to those options, because as I said, I'm not feeling drawn to anything in particular. Thanks! Shame to hear about Newell's mate, as I told in my new thread and also to Nick on his thread there might be an issue with youth intakes at least in Chile and Argentina as no players of the expected and assumed calibre are being produced, despite having top facilities and personnel. Or maybe the game is harder, I don't know haha. Regarding your new destination a cantera save seems like a good idea, I'm trying to do a youth save in my new one, but without restriction on where to buy from, only age restriction and an optional (yet hopefully enforceable) condition that players have to play at least a year either on the B team or U-19's before being promoted onto the senior squad. Regarding your cantera save, Spain is a good place, due to the big regionalist sentiment of each community, a Catalonian only save with a small Catalan side like Sabadell, Gimnastic, Lleida or Girona might be a good idea, and maybe given your editorial skills make the province independent and try your hand at a C&C save with one of those teams and Catalunya to take advantage of Barcelona's recruitment skills.
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Post by hokster on Jun 21, 2020 22:55:17 GMT
Shame to hear about Newell's mate, as I told in my new thread and also to Nick on his thread there might be an issue with youth intakes at least in Chile and Argentina as no players of the expected and assumed calibre are being produced, despite having top facilities and personnel. Or maybe the game is harder, I don't know haha. Regarding your new destination a cantera save seems like a good idea, I'm trying to do a youth save in my new one, but without restriction on where to buy from, only age restriction and an optional (yet hopefully enforceable) condition that players have to play at least a year either on the B team or U-19's before being promoted onto the senior squad. Regarding your cantera save, Spain is a good place, due to the big regionalist sentiment of each community, a Catalonian only save with a small Catalan side like Sabadell, Gimnastic, Lleida or Girona might be a good idea, and maybe given your editorial skills make the province independent and try your hand at a C&C save with one of those teams and Catalunya to take advantage of Barcelona's recruitment skills. That's a good shout. I think I'll try a YDWAWK save with either Santos or Soton (I've got Soton open right now, just to poke around and since I was just in South America with Newell's), but I could see that not panning out if (like with Newell's) I kept not getting kids who played in particular positions (like FB or GK). If that fails, I'll switch to a cantera save, since that at least gives me a bit more flexibility.
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Post by hokster on Jun 22, 2020 1:15:35 GMT
Alright, I think I've narrowed it down to St. Etienne or Auxerre, just depending on if I want to start in Ligue 1 or not. I don't think this will be a kids save, but like chaodck, I'll probably try to minimize signings and rely first and foremost on the academy (including adapting my tactical system as certain cohorts come through). Any votes on which?
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Post by ttgb on Jun 22, 2020 7:26:39 GMT
Alright, I think I've narrowed it down to St. Etienne or Auxerre, just depending on if I want to start in Ligue 1 or not. I don't think this will be a kids save, but like chaodck, I'll probably try to minimize signings and rely first and foremost on the academy (including adapting my tactical system as certain cohorts come through). Any votes on which? St.etienne for me. I have tried a similar approach with Palermo, for the first 3 or 4 seasons I didn't sign anyone apart from loans. I then moved it to just Italians and then player who had Italy as second nationality. I have found though that only certain positions were being generated at a decent level. Plenty of left backs, strikers and right wingers but no goal keepers or attacking mids
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Post by mrcool on Jun 22, 2020 7:39:08 GMT
For you Newell game, How about trying to get a team from the Argentinan 2nd Division and bulid them up to be powerhouses?
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Post by Reiver on Jun 22, 2020 8:52:16 GMT
I'm in the same situation - the dangers of combining multiple editor files that have not been tested together, in my save the fixtures don't generate on the second season. Cooking up something new.
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Post by Nick on Jun 22, 2020 9:03:09 GMT
Auxerre for me Hokster. What about Le Havre as an alternative?
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Post by Reiver on Jun 22, 2020 9:43:12 GMT
I forgot to say, Auxerre all the way for me too. Though if we were going for France my vote will always be for Metz.
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Post by hokster on Jun 22, 2020 10:09:33 GMT
Auxerre for me Hokster. What about Le Havre as an alternative? Was thinking about Le Havre, but then that got me thinking about Lens: they've got facilities as good as Auxerre's (and better than Le Havre's), and a bigger stadium, to boot, which would be useful after promotion. But Le Havre probably has better recruitment/junior coaching, since they're obviously a storied academy. Alright, started a save with Le Havre. I'll start a thread shortly, once I get to grips with the squad. Auxerre will be my backup if this goes disastrously and I get sacked early on.
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Post by Reiver on Jun 24, 2020 11:04:43 GMT
I am struggling to find a save that interests me. I want to do away with crazy restrictions like I had before - I'm thinking a cool lower team somewhere, or even a journeyman, but I'm not sure where to start.
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Post by ttgb on Jun 24, 2020 11:38:10 GMT
Right I think I need to start looking for a new club and a new challenge. I just don't know what.
I have had two long term saves in FM20 with Stuttgart and Palermo. I want something out of the big European leagues although Portugal may be considered, out of Europe would be good. I want a challenge YDWAWK type of save.
Hit me with some ideas
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Post by Marshdweller on Jun 24, 2020 11:41:30 GMT
Iceland? I hear Kerry Katona goes there, so there should be plenty of kids...
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Post by mrcool on Jun 24, 2020 13:00:37 GMT
Some Ideas just to put out there
- A team in Iceland or Faroe Islands but create a Nordic cup as well - Vaduz in Lichtenstein (Manage the national team possibly as well) - Download a Scottish Expansion database and start from the very bottom - An Eastern Europe save of some sort - A team from Oceania- Obviously expand all 16 files from all countries for full experience
A few ideas. Each to their own and all that
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Post by Nick on Jun 24, 2020 13:01:52 GMT
I am struggling to find a save that interests me. I want to do away with crazy restrictions like I had before - I'm thinking a cool lower team somewhere, or even a journeyman, but I'm not sure where to start. Right I think I need to start looking for a new club and a new challenge. I just don't know what. I have had two long term saves in FM20 with Stuttgart and Palermo. I want something out of the big European leagues although Portugal may be considered, out of Europe would be good. I want a challenge YDWAWK type of save. Hit me with some ideas I'll suggest these for both of you in the hope that one of you finds one of them appealing: Metalist 1925 Kharkiv - Only founded in 2016, legally the club isn't the new version of the now defunct Metalist Kharkiv, but they have a similar name, play in the same city, have adopted the same colours and play in the same stadium so make your own decision on that. Tromso - I'll let that article explain why they're such an interesting club to manage. Czech Republic Club and Country - There's a shed load of club in Czech football to do this challenge with. Kizmarlo did it with Jablonec a fair while ago now, so it's definitely doable. Slavia Prague, Sparta Prague, Plzen ar ethe top three, but Mlada Boleslav, Banik Ostrava, Slovan Liberec, Teplice or Sigma Olomouc would all be good options. The league is good enough to attract players and develop your youth intake, but also low enough to need to sell them to the elite clubs across Europe. The national team has been in decline for a while now after hitting their high during the 90's. Adam Hlozek is the bright prospect at Sparta Prague. MLS - This more of a selfish suggestion. I don't know if either of you have a good knowledge or the MLS, the draft and the rules surrounding that? I don't, but would love to read a save from America. They're few and far between in the FM community.
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Post by Reiver on Jun 24, 2020 13:10:28 GMT
I think I'll half take your suggestion, as one of my idea was to go with the extended american leagues file you can find on the SI forums and start a Journeyman there. I just don't know if I go for the NCAA or the lower leagues.
EDIT - I will not take the Metalist game for sure, as I'm too attached to the other Ukranian Metalist from previous FMs.
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Post by ttgb on Jun 24, 2020 13:58:19 GMT
Thanks all some good ideas there. A few I wouldn't consider right now due to past saves, I.e. I recently played in Norway.
At the moment I am liking the idea of MLS. I have been getting a bigger interest in that recently but haven't a clue about all the rules etc. How hard could it be.
Club ideas?
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Jun 24, 2020 14:02:16 GMT
Those are great suggestions, a Tromso C&C sounds cool as well with the current batch of Norwegian super talents. Also, that stadium! Pretty tempted now haha. How does youth development work in the MLS? Do you have your own intake or do you have to rely solely on the draft? In the NBA, teams have no youth department and players pretty much only enter the NBA through the draft. The worst teams end up with the high draft picks, so if this is similar in the MLS and you perform well you basically don't have your own youth... Is this the case?
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Post by Reiver on Jun 24, 2020 14:21:38 GMT
If you want to go even further north, the northernmost city in Norway has a great name and has more than one football team playing in the fourth tier. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HammerfestAnd their logo is fire:
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Post by ttgb on Jun 24, 2020 15:58:46 GMT
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Post by Nick on Jun 24, 2020 16:06:49 GMT
Yeah, they're the ones I use. I'd say they were the highest quality updates around at the moment, certainly from the ones available in a megapack like that anyway. Timo seems to have taken over from Claasen in getting the league updates out.
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Post by chaodck on Jun 24, 2020 16:15:16 GMT
I've been using them as well, both on my Chile C&C and right now at NEC. Never really had a single issue with them. I also think I used them last year (I think most of the files are converted year-to-year)
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Post by jawzy on Jun 24, 2020 17:27:25 GMT
Right I think I need to start looking for a new club and a new challenge. I just don't know what. I have had two long term saves in FM20 with Stuttgart and Palermo. I want something out of the big European leagues although Portugal may be considered, out of Europe would be good. I want a challenge YDWAWK type of save. Hit me with some ideas Famlicao in Portugal
Finances will be fine due to foreground sugar daddy, So should be able to get the facilities up and potentially compete wage wise if you manage to get good players come through
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Post by ttgb on Jun 24, 2020 17:28:39 GMT
Yeah I couldn't see anything from claasen.
Will have a little look tomorrow. May even do a little club and country save in Africa to tick me over summer months.
Now do we know anyone with a custom African cup file?
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Post by ttgb on Jun 24, 2020 17:29:18 GMT
Right I think I need to start looking for a new club and a new challenge. I just don't know what. I have had two long term saves in FM20 with Stuttgart and Palermo. I want something out of the big European leagues although Portugal may be considered, out of Europe would be good. I want a challenge YDWAWK type of save. Hit me with some ideas Famlicao in Portugal
Finances will be fine due to foreground sugar daddy, So should be able to get the facilities up and potentially compete wage wise if you manage to get good players come through
Thanks will also check this out.
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Post by jawzy on Jun 24, 2020 17:31:59 GMT
Sangue Blu real world league updates, are also fairly good. Been using a mix of timo and Sangue Blu
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Jun 27, 2020 16:22:19 GMT
Unfortunately, success came a bit too quickly in my ASEC save which made me lose interest, after which I played around briefly with RC Lens and have now settled on a C&C with Tromsø and Norway. I'm not sure whether I should start a topic as I don't want to litter the forum with short saves, but I hope this will stick for a long period so I'll just post something here now. The Norwegian season runs from March till November, and Tromsø were relegated from the Eliteserien in 2019 so you can basically choose whether you want to start at the top level or the second tier, depending on if you start your game in 2019 or 2020. Starting in 2020 seemed like the biggest challenge and the most realistic option, so we played our games in the OBOS-Ligaen. The squad is pretty strong for this level and we spent about the same amount on wages as a mid-table club in the top tier, so we were supposed to get promoted. As you can see, defensively we were very solid whilst scoring enough to comfortably win promotion. The national team was a different story though. They were already qualified for the European Championship so I can't take credit for that, and we got drawn in the group of death with Portugal, The Netherlands and Serbia. We finished third, so we were dependent on the other groups to advance, since the best 4 out of 6 number 3's advance as well. We were ahead of Iceland who scored and conceded 1 goal less than us, but we were completely equal with England and we advanced to the next round, so I guess they got eliminated based on red/yellow cards. We were rewarded with a game against Germany, who were clearly the better of us but didn't score to the absolute last second of the game, in typical German fashion (at least that's the stereotype in The Netherlands, I'm pretty sure the data doesn't back this up). The Nations League is also a struggle and we barely escaped relegation (and perhaps saved my job), although I feel like our draw again wasn't favourable and we should be able to improve on this. For the World Cup qualification we need to finish atop of a group with England, Switzerland, Kosovo, Belarus and Malta, or finish second and hope we are one of the 3 best runners-up. We beat England in a friendly this year, so it might be possible!
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Post by chaodck on Jun 27, 2020 17:11:19 GMT
Unfortunately, success came a bit too quickly in my ASEC save which made me lose interest, after which I played around briefly with RC Lens and have now settled on a C&C with Tromsø and Norway. I'm not sure whether I should start a topic as I don't want to litter the forum with short saves, but I hope this will stick for a long period so I'll just post something here now. The Norwegian season runs from March till November, and Tromsø were relegated from the Eliteserien in 2019 so you can basically choose whether you want to start at the top level or the second tier, depending on if you start your game in 2019 or 2020. Starting in 2020 seemed like the biggest challenge and the most realistic option, so we played our games in the OBOS-Ligaen. The squad is pretty strong for this level and we spent about the same amount on wages as a mid-table club in the top tier, so we were supposed to get promoted. As you can see, defensively we were very solid whilst scoring enough to comfortably win promotion. The national team was a different story though. They were already qualified for the European Championship so I can't take credit for that, and we got drawn in the group of death with Portugal, The Netherlands and Serbia. We finished third, so we were dependent on the other groups to advance, since the best 4 out of 6 number 3's advance as well. We were ahead of Iceland who scored and conceded 1 goal less than us, but we were completely equal with England and we advanced to the next round, so I guess they got eliminated based on red/yellow cards. We were rewarded with a game against Germany, who were clearly the better of us but didn't score to the absolute last second of the game, in typical German fashion (at least that's the stereotype in The Netherlands, I'm pretty sure the data doesn't back this up). The Nations League is also a struggle and we barely escaped relegation (and perhaps saved my job), although I feel like our draw again wasn't favourable and we should be able to improve on this. For the World Cup qualification we need to finish atop of a group with England, Switzerland, Kosovo, Belarus and Malta, or finish second and hope we are one of the 3 best runners-up. We beat England in a friendly this year, so it might be possible! Erling motherfucking Håland. MATE. What a lad. I thought of playing a Norwegian C&C just for him (I would've started either with Bryne or Molde though, the Norwegian sides he played in). Regarding your EURO elimination, the dutch stereotype is correct methinks, backed up by the words of the great Gary Lineker: "Football is a simple game. Twenty-two men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win.", so don't beat yourself up too much, better luck next time. How was the first youth intake nation wide? Any interesting newgens to develop?
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Jun 27, 2020 17:38:32 GMT
Erling motherfucking Håland. MATE. What a lad. I thought of playing a Norwegian C&C just for him (I would've started either with Bryne or Molde though, the Norwegian sides he played in). Regarding your EURO elimination, the dutch stereotype is correct methinks, backed up by the words of the great Gary Lineker: "Football is a simple game. Twenty-two men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win.", so don't beat yourself up too much, better luck next time. How was the first youth intake nation wide? Any interesting newgens to develop? He hasn't really been on fire so far unfortunately! Only 6 goals in 14 games, but playing against the likes of Malta next year should help. Haha yeah I love that quote, but I think I read an article a while ago testing that hypotheses and finding that it's not actually true. I can't say I didn't shout something unkind about Germans in my mind though. Annoyingly, the intakes happen in February. You'd expect it to be around October/November given it's a summer league, but SI decided otherwise for some reason. This makes squad planning potentially a bit more difficult because the transfer period will be on it's way for at least a month already. The second team played in the fourth tier last season, and destroyed their league so I'd like to keep them in the third tier (the highest they are allowed to go) for a while, but I may sign some players for them to strengthen weak areas. Now it's better to wait for the intake perhaps to see if there are any players good enough to promote to the second (or first) team straight away.
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Post by Reiver on Jul 3, 2020 12:46:08 GMT
I'm not having much luck with my saves. Second season fixtures never get generated. After testing some of the Central American files I used aren't compatible with the USA file, which renders of my north american journeyman idea moot.
Back to the drawing board, with a few ideas cooking up in my head.
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Post by Reiver on Jul 3, 2020 14:24:39 GMT
Considerations:
Altonaer FC von 1893 in Germany: instrumental founders of the german football federation, hosted the first ever league final, and in the early years of german football reached two semi-finals are Hamburg's third biggest team, have a vocal fan base similar to St. Pauli's and unique uniforms. Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting played for them from ages 10 to 13.
C&C with a newly created country, most likely Brittany. Career game starting in the state leagues of Brazil.
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