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Post by Robson on Jan 12, 2021 17:58:16 GMT
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Post by Marshdweller on Jan 13, 2021 12:21:05 GMT
Nice! I shall have a sustained look this evening. Thanks!
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Post by Robson on Jan 13, 2021 21:02:32 GMT
Yah I like it. If its new to you then you see how you can create five star tactics. For some formations that seems harder than others. I doubt its perfect but you may find it makes quite a difference.
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Post by Marshdweller on Jan 13, 2021 22:20:49 GMT
Yeah, I've had a play and I like what I see. Really good that it can change based on team instructions too. I'm pleased to say it likes the tactic I built for Volendam and a 4-4-2 I'm experimenting with at the moment.
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Post by Robson on Jan 17, 2021 18:54:56 GMT
What's quite interesting is if you take some of the so-called super tactics (take Knap's for example) and plug them in to this resource. From what I can tell they achieve the support score but get more for penetration versus slightly under par for solidity.
It's almost like build a 5-star tactic. Then change a couple of roles to over score penetration at the expense of solidity. Voila - you arrive at Knap.
A couple of other observations. In a 2-man central midfield (e.g. 442) you should have two support roles. Also with this tool its much easier to score well with a central midfield (sup) role or a carrilero. But much harder - again according to this - to find balance using a box to box or mezzala.
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Post by Marshdweller on Jan 18, 2021 11:58:57 GMT
I guess that's the key trade-off - if you can increase penetration by 1.5 points but only lose 0.5-1 in the support score you're probably onto something.
Interestingly, I completely failed to get a 3-5-2 which the app thought was a 5-star tactic. It kept warning me about the lack of attacking penetration down the flanks (or something similar).
I've definitely found this useful even if I'm returning to the same tactic over and over again. I think it's just my tactical limitations and cautious nature that mean I stick with what I know.
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Post by dalenichol on Jan 21, 2021 20:35:45 GMT
I'm late to this, but it looks awesome. I'm not tactically minded at all when it comes to football, so this could be an interesting way to look at some new ideas.
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Post by Marshdweller on Jan 21, 2021 22:04:53 GMT
I really like it because it's helping me make small tweaks to tactics. For example, I had my current Volendam system which has Inverted Wingers on both flanks, but I recently had a situation where I needed to play a left-footer on the left, and so wanted to know what role would be good in central midfield to counter the loss of central threat caused by switching from an IW to a plain Winger.
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Post by dalenichol on Jan 21, 2021 22:37:20 GMT
I like it because it's confirming my shitness. Set up what the app considers a 5* tactic...continue to lose  |
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Post by Marshdweller on Jan 22, 2021 7:37:40 GMT
For the first time ever on a Football Manager forum.... "it's NOT your tactics mate"
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