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Post by dalenichol on Oct 22, 2021 10:58:56 GMT
That's the beta out now, well last night, but due to my work I wont get a chance to properly play it until the early hours of tomorrow. It's installing now and I'll get it booted up, but I have to leave for work in two hours, which is a bit shite. Ah well
I said I wasn't excited and I didn't know if I'd even get the game. Obviously I bought it the minute I found out it was live. This is the way.
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Post by jawzy on Oct 22, 2021 12:37:15 GMT
Latvia, randomly added? to stock leagues
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Post by chaodck on Oct 22, 2021 14:39:42 GMT
Shit, wasn't expecting this to be so early, hahaha. Anyone has a new features article or something like that? I always want to read how SI will convince me to send them my hard earned money, before I hand it to them.
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Post by jawzy on Oct 22, 2021 16:31:55 GMT
Newcastle have 200m to spend, my go to save, may potentially be a off putting expirence.
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 22, 2021 23:38:48 GMT
I played for about an hour before work. It's definitely FM.
I haven't got far enough to use the new data hub feature. If it wasn't for that (and the fact that Latvia for some reason is now fully licenced), you could have told me that this was FM21 and I was living in a dream.
We'll see how it plays out, I'm obviously intrigued enough to have bought it day one and will likely now stay up all night playing it, but I really wasn't sure about what was all so new about it earlier. Think there's a new position too, somewhere.
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Post by jawzy on Oct 23, 2021 0:39:55 GMT
I played for about an hour before work. It's definitely FM. I haven't got far enough to use the new data hub feature. If it wasn't for that (and the fact that Latvia for some reason is now fully licenced), you could have told me that this was FM21 and I was living in a dream. We'll see how it plays out, I'm obviously intrigued enough to have bought it day one and will likely now stay up all night playing it, but I really wasn't sure about what was all so new about it earlier. Think there's a new position too, somewhere. A wide central defender who can have an attaccking role?
two wide central defs and an attacking libero, make it somehow work.
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 23, 2021 1:10:18 GMT
What I wish I could make work is the steam refund option after 2 hours of play time All this has done so far is remind me why I started playing CM01/02 again instead. It feels like FM21 with a slight new shine. The match engine feels no different, the players are still doing the same stupid things like running into channels and standing still, not running after balls, kicking it into row z when there's a teammate 2 foot in front of them. I maybe need to scrap the idea of a "beta" specific rangers save to get myself involved and just go find something where I have less expectation and more tolerance for the nonsense. Maybe Latvia!
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Post by jawzy on Oct 23, 2021 8:48:53 GMT
Apperently latvia are in it cause the latvian fa made theyre league in fm21.
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Post by jawzy on Oct 23, 2021 14:23:39 GMT
Cant do every match gegenpress. Unless you rotate heavily. Does seem to cause fitness and injury issues
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 23, 2021 14:30:30 GMT
Yeah, injuries and fitness definitely playing a bigger part already.
Not playability related, but seems there's an almost hardcoded scenario where Brendan Rodgers takes the Newcastle job and Rino Gattuso takes the Leicester job, seems to happen on everybody's saves so far
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Post by jawzy on Oct 23, 2021 14:41:46 GMT
Did notice this once i tried an EPL start, but wasnt feeling it.
Actually fast played a season in Indonesia second tier. Using a simple 442 counter attacking.
Planning to do a southend save at some point.
Is peru season really only 25 games now? Alianzas relegation got revoked, but the board want challenge for title?
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Oct 23, 2021 14:54:27 GMT
You can really notice the fitness issues, even though I tend to rotate a lot. Usually I have 2 11's and just rotate them each game, I'm not even sure that's enough now if you press heavily. Started with Newcastle (like everyone else) to spend some money before I dive into a save in Iceland when the release comes. We have won 2 of the last 3, but it has been a massive struggle so far. The game doesn't feel much different from FM21, other than that I like the data hub and failed to implement a wide central defender so far. The scouting reports annoy me because they don't show the attributes, so you have to click on the player or hover over the information button. The pink/purple in the skin looks like someone accidentally entered the wrong hex code which made me play with just icons on the sidebar so hopefully some nice custom skins will come out soon. I always need to get used to not having editor files in the beta as well, as these team names annoy me (Leeds, Man City, Betis etc). Just looks way better with the full team names. This may all sound a bit negative and I wish some bigger changes were made to the game (more random leagues like Latvia please!), but I'm still very excited to start a proper save once the game comes out. Also very curious to see what the impact of the dynamic youth ratings will be, and how quickly that can be impacted.
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 23, 2021 15:40:29 GMT
You can really notice the fitness issues, even though I tend to rotate a lot. Usually I have 2 11's and just rotate them each game, I'm not even sure that's enough now if you press heavily. Started with Newcastle (like everyone else) to spend some money before I dive into a save in Iceland when the release comes. We have won 2 of the last 3, but it has been a massive struggle so far. The game doesn't feel much different from FM21, other than that I like the data hub and failed to implement a wide central defender so far. The scouting reports annoy me because they don't show the attributes, so you have to click on the player or hover over the information button. The pink/purple in the skin looks like someone accidentally entered the wrong hex code which made me play with just icons on the sidebar so hopefully some nice custom skins will come out soon. I always need to get used to not having editor files in the beta as well, as these team names annoy me (Leeds, Man City, Betis etc). Just looks way better with the full team names. This may all sound a bit negative and I wish some bigger changes were made to the game (more random leagues like Latvia please!), but I'm still very excited to start a proper save once the game comes out. Also very curious to see what the impact of the dynamic youth ratings will be, and how quickly that can be impacted. You say it all sounds a bit negative, but at least you made a few positives. If I could, I'd probably refund it. There's nothing so far that's exciting me. Everything that I'm coming up against are the same old issues that made me abandon FM21 in favour of going back to CM. Tactics still seem like there's only one proper way to play and if you get one thing wrong, everything else is useless. People raving about the match engine, but I'm watching the same old issues; passing directly to the opposition when under no pressure, running into channels when you could be through on goal, shooting from angles when you could cross. I've paid my money, so I'm going to try and settle on a save and stick to it and see if I can get somewhere, but it's definitely not a positive experience for me so far.
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Oct 23, 2021 16:30:14 GMT
I haven't looked at the games' highlights enough to properly judge the ME, but I understand your general feelings. There's not much to warrant paying for the new game, when it seems pretty similar to FM21. There are some new features obviously, but most of them will probably go unused most of time. Perhaps the dynamic youth rating is a game changer, but I'm not sure we know anything about how it works already(?). Like what triggers a change and how long it takes to have a significant effect. But who knows, once the full game is out and I have I nice save up and running I may love it. For now it just feels like more of a patch rather than a new game.
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 23, 2021 16:49:04 GMT
I haven't looked at the games' highlights enough to properly judge the ME, but I understand your general feelings. There's not much to warrant paying for the new game, when it seems pretty similar to FM21. There are some new features obviously, but most of them will probably go unused most of time. Perhaps the dynamic youth rating is a game changer, but I'm not sure we know anything about how it works already(?). Like what triggers a change and how long it takes to have a significant effect. But who knows, once the full game is out and I have I nice save up and running I may love it. For now it just feels like more of a patch rather than a new game. Yeah absolutely, to all of the above I've started a save in Finland. Less pressure, probably a bit more leeway in terms of having to get everything exactly right etc and we'll see how it goes. I love FM, and I got this version fairly cheap so I know I'll eventually get my money value out of it, it just feels a bit underwhelming at the moment.
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 23, 2021 22:26:29 GMT
I'm winning matches now. This is easily the best version of FM ever released.
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Post by chaodck on Oct 23, 2021 23:44:36 GMT
I'm winning matches now. This is easily the best version of FM ever released. Love you, bruv.
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 23, 2021 23:55:46 GMT
I'm winning matches now. This is easily the best version of FM ever released. Love you, bruv. Love you too, my friend! We did lose a cup final though, so I hate it again. Also: # So that's the new youth intake preview screen, not sure how I feel about it. I'm not sure if things are off because of the dates and the fact I'm managing in Finland, so the league dates are different, but I already have players in my 'youth candidates' screen and it doesn't match up with what the preview is showing me. So if somebody else makes it to an intake preview and/or an intake day, please lemme know!
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Post by jawzy on Oct 24, 2021 11:47:00 GMT
My long term games so far are going to be
Southend, a club irl on a massive downward trend, probably going to follow same path as stockport (best case scenario)
Metalist in 2nd tier of ukraine.
Think a beta save will be within china league. Money shouldnt be as large as before, but might be an okay country to see dynamic youth rating potentially.
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 24, 2021 12:53:16 GMT
Despite losing to Inter Turku on the last day of the season, goal difference sees us through to the league title! My first, and most likely only trophy on FM22!
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Post by jawzy on Oct 24, 2021 17:01:13 GMT
Finland has rather short seasons?
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 24, 2021 17:50:56 GMT
Finland has rather short seasons? Fairly short seasons and I play quite quickly, because we have no money and my tactics were working. So it was largely "hit continue until I have a match"
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Post by dalenichol on Oct 27, 2021 11:48:57 GMT
Some things never change.
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Nov 6, 2021 10:22:32 GMT
We are probably the most boring team in football currently. CSKA have an insane amount of defensive and central midfielders and only one proper wide player, so I went for this abomination. We're only averaging 52% possession, I'd expect much more, but I haven't really gotten the grips of this year's version yet.
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Post by dalenichol on Nov 6, 2021 12:51:10 GMT
We are probably the most boring team in football currently. CSKA have an insane amount of defensive and central midfielders and only one proper wide player, so I went for this abomination. We're only averaging 52% possession, I'd expect much more, but I haven't really gotten the grips of this year's version yet. Pfft, know your place.
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Post by jawzy on Nov 6, 2021 18:25:55 GMT
Ill be dabbling in russia at somepoint.
Tho briefly dabbling with andy carroll in jeonbuk lol
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Post by dalenichol on Nov 7, 2021 3:32:57 GMT
I'm not entirely sure what I'll do when the game fully launches. My Krasnodar save, like the few saves I've had before it, would appear to be dying in season 3. Built a team to suit my tactics and style over the last 2 seasons, it now doesn't work.
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Nov 7, 2021 9:20:58 GMT
I don't think I have ever quite had a season like this. We were behind Dinamo with 5 games to go and we still had to play them. It was just impossible to score against us though, and we didn't concede a goal in the last 6 games of the season. Akinfeev kept 22 clean sheets, which also means we never conceded more than once in a game. The 2 losses came back in August, and after that I changed our mentality from cautious to positive because we just couldn't get anything done offensively. We then went on a 24-game unbeaten run. The cup was a different story as Dinamo Moscow knocked us out in the first round we played in; 2-0. I felt like results got way better when players got familiar with each other and the tactic, since we scored almost twice as many goals in the second half of the season. From what I've read on the SI forums it seems like morale also has a massive impact on performances, so I guess that helped us too.
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Post by dalenichol on Nov 7, 2021 11:52:20 GMT
That's a brilliant season Dirk, fair play to you! I think morale and team cohesion definitely play a bigger role this year, I've had to chop and change my team so much and I think that's definitely been detrimental.
I'm not sure how long term you plan on going with this save, but just as a side note: There's a news item that tells you that the foreign player limit will be reduced from the 2nd season...it doesn't happen and is a bug that I've raised on the official forum, so bear that in mind.
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Nov 7, 2021 14:19:37 GMT
Cheers Dale! How were the finances for you? We lost about €30m over the course of the season, although sponsorship brought it back up to near the original level.
Oh I haven't had that news item yet! I won't continue though, and start a new save when the game is out. Would definitely recommend Russia though, nice short seasons and a competitive league!
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